Mk6 Gti Easy Way to Fix Camber
zee
Go Kart Champion
- #1
I will be attempting this tomorrow after work. Does anyone have additional information/hints to add?
My allignment is booked for monday and I want to make sure that I get to the shop without ruining my rear fenders.
Will it be easier with the wheels removed?
I searched golfmkv and got the information below.
tomshouse516:
upper camber arm has an eccentric washer on the frame side mount. you loosen the nut and spin the bolt/washer so that the thin side of the washer faces directly in towards the center of the car. that is max rear camber.
RSMark5:
The shim, you want the narrowest part to face each other. That will give you all the way in. If you don't want as extreme negative camber adjust it. That shim seems to make it bottom the adjustment out sooner. So think of that shim as giving you like 3 positions. The narrow part facing each other is all the way in. the fat part facing in is probably around -3*. You still push the adjustment arm all the way in so you know its even, but it does allow for probably around -1* of play.
CW.GTI :
The shim and bolt have a tendancy to shift when your loosening and pushing the arm in. You do have to make sure they are facing each other in the same pattern, not opposite. Otherwise the camber won't be exactly even.
RSMark5:
The shim and bolt have a tendancy to shift when your loosening and pushing the arm in. You do have to make sure they are facing each other in the same pattern, not opposite. Otherwise the camber won't be exactly
Basically In the highlighted area, loosen #12 then adjust by using #10
What about the #9 asymmetric washer?
ps. I have two jack stands and a floor jack that I will be using.
edit: I'll be doing this with a buddy who just PM'd me.
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- #4
I'm sure Bubuski is performing an experiment on how fast he can wear out the tread on his tires.
- #5
Haha! :clap:
- #7
You can probably do about -2 camber all around with maybe a 15% ish loss in tread due to the camber. If you have directional tires, you just swap your left side tires to your right side so you get as even as wear as possible.
Camber helps during track for extra grip but lowers braking slightly due to less tire contact patch on the pavement.
I think -2* is max tolerable for daily driving.
- #9
i stand corrected haha. Now that I think about it, you're absolutely right. Sorry for the ill advised post. But yea good alignment solves almost everything.
- #13
Aggressive chamber actually does accelerate tire wear even in normal everyday driving. In the case of negative chamber, the inside of the tire takes on a higher load in straight line driving and will wear faster than the outside. Your 20K tires will not last 20K. If the tires are not directional, you can un/remount them inside-out to extend their lives. If they are directional, then once the inside is worn they are done.
Another way to get even tire wear with aggressive negative chamber is go to auto-x regularly and drive the crap out of the outside of the tires in the turns. 
Setting the correct alignment is a precision of part art, part science, and part sorcery, with camber, toe, and caster all interrelated. I really don't recommend messing with it blindly to fit some 9.5" wheels.
zee
Go Kart Champion
- #14
...and what is considered aggressive camber? Our cars cannot run too aggressive without extra camber plates in the back.
Our camber wear is wearing at an angle not wearing faster.
The weight is re-distributed on the tire so the part that contacts the road will not wear faster as long as the toe and caster are still in check. It will wear at thesame rate based on the individual's driving just like MPG when relating to Stg1 tune.
Get a Stg I, Be heavy on the pedal and you'll burn more gas while going faster.
get more neg camber and take corners and exists quicker and you'll burn more rubber while being faster.
Drive slow and relaxed on the street and either one would last just as long.
With caster and toe set to spec and negative camber, people look at the tire and see it wear at an angle and assume that the tire wears faster. It does not on the streets. It does when the car is pushed beyond it's normal cruising pace in high spritied driving.
A 205 tire takes higher load and has less contact than a 225, but it does not wear any faster in a worry some way on the MK6 Golf or GTI. If the toe is off then either tire will wear considerably faster.
On a track, negative camber increases grip in hard cornering where the car would otherwise start oversteering/understeering. Adjusting the camber to increase corner grip will use the tire's rubber to improve lap times.
Same tire rotation rule applies whether it is cambered or not to enhance rubber life. Both would wear disappointingly if not rotated.
As I mentioned above, I do not auto-x, track...and the full allignment is booked for monday. Adjusting the camber so I can drive to the shop without ruining my fenders is not the end of the world. they will reset the caster and toe that I altered to OEMspec and balance the camber between the wheels while I still tuck the 9.5.
I am mechanically inclined and have installed enough suspensions. Installing and alligning is not hard...as long as you have the right tools. Adjusting the toe is simply the other bolt in the picture that I posted.
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